I am currently googling Plotters block and plotting for idiots. Yes I am so stuck. I have worked myself into a state where I am certain I can have no fresh ideas, that I will never complete anything, and that I will simply slip away into meaninglessness. I can't write my own name at this point.
Next maybe I will start looking for other peoples plots to steal. That's healthy right?
Welcome!
Welcome to Paducah Prose Writers!
We are looking for writers who need a little constructive critisizm and can dish it out as well as take it. If I'm talking about you, bring a few pages of anything (the good, the bad, and the really rough drafts) and read for us. And don't worry, we're all as shy, nervous, and scared as you are!
All gramatical geniuses, professional editors, and english majors are also welcome, no reading submissions required.
We are looking for writers who need a little constructive critisizm and can dish it out as well as take it. If I'm talking about you, bring a few pages of anything (the good, the bad, and the really rough drafts) and read for us. And don't worry, we're all as shy, nervous, and scared as you are!
All gramatical geniuses, professional editors, and english majors are also welcome, no reading submissions required.
Thursday, November 5, 2009
November Meeting
Lets meet at Etcetera Coffee House at 320 N. 6th Street on Saterday the 14th at 3pm.
Thursday, October 22, 2009
October
No meeting. Sorry. The Library is currently unavailable. We will schedule early November and keep on track at a new location.
Friday, October 9, 2009
Thank you!
Bill and Patience,
I wanted to think you for your advice in the last meeting. I really enjoyed learning with you.
Bill, I was especially struck by what you said about magic and technology. Consistency is hard, but necessary for good writing. I have some decisions to make about the world I am creating.
I wanted to think you for your advice in the last meeting. I really enjoyed learning with you.
Bill, I was especially struck by what you said about magic and technology. Consistency is hard, but necessary for good writing. I have some decisions to make about the world I am creating.
October Meeting
I have had two personal family emergencies already this month, and have not scheduled the meeting for October. Sorry, I'll get on it!
Saturday, September 19, 2009
Meeting Day Changed for September
A little change to schedule this month. PPW meeting is scheduled for SUNDAY, the 27th at 3-5 pm. It will be in the MEETING ROOM instead of the conference room. (Their schedule was full this month).
I hope to see you there!
I hope to see you there!
Tuesday, August 4, 2009
August meeting
Our next meeting will be August 29th. Please join us at McCracken County Public Library at 3pm.
Wednesday, July 8, 2009
July's Meeting
July's meeting is scheduled for the 25th at 3 pm.
I was aiming for Saturdays because it is usually the easiest time for people to make it to things. Someone has requested Thursday's. Please e-mail me about your opinion. I obviously can't please everyone, but if most of you prefer a week night, I will make it happen.
I was aiming for Saturdays because it is usually the easiest time for people to make it to things. Someone has requested Thursday's. Please e-mail me about your opinion. I obviously can't please everyone, but if most of you prefer a week night, I will make it happen.
Friday, June 12, 2009
Paducah Sun Error
The Paducah Sun listed PPW meeting for tomorrow the thirteenth, which is incorrect. The meeting will be the 20th.
-Kristy
-Kristy
Monday, June 8, 2009
June's Meeting
PPW will meet on June 20th at McCracken County Public Library in Paducah from 3 to 5 pm. Please join us!
Also, I am so excited over the posts that have been made on our work page. Remember, if you want to post, click here to email me.
Also, I am so excited over the posts that have been made on our work page. Remember, if you want to post, click here to email me.
Sunday, May 31, 2009
June's meeting
To do:
Must schedule June's meeting...
I think I have developed a phobia of scheduling meeting after last months fiasco where I scheduled during the Arts Festival.
Okay, no room for cowards here. (HA!) I will check ilist for major Paducah events, and then schedule. This Week!
So check back (FYI: if you follow on blogger, there will be a place at the bottom of your dashboard that will show new posts automatically).
Must schedule June's meeting...
I think I have developed a phobia of scheduling meeting after last months fiasco where I scheduled during the Arts Festival.
Okay, no room for cowards here. (HA!) I will check ilist for major Paducah events, and then schedule. This Week!
So check back (FYI: if you follow on blogger, there will be a place at the bottom of your dashboard that will show new posts automatically).
Friday, May 22, 2009
PWG
I can't believe I got out of the house two Friday's in a row! Paducah Writer's Group at Etcetera was wonderful tonight. I love the mix of music and poetry. There was definitely a few of those people who make you realize what talent actually is. I am torn between inspiration and giving up (I think I'll go with being inspired).
I wish the best of luck (or break a leg) to anyone who is performing tomorrow at the Arts and Music Festival.
-Kristy
Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Meeting Saturday!
Meeting Saturday! Meeting Saturday! Meeting Saturday!
Oh, and did I mention there is a meeting Saturday?
So, if you needed to know, there is a meeting Saturday at 3pm at McCracken County Library in the conference room.
Come if you can.
Oh, and did I mention there is a meeting Saturday?
So, if you needed to know, there is a meeting Saturday at 3pm at McCracken County Library in the conference room.
Come if you can.
Friday, May 15, 2009
Elements of Publishing: 2. Agents vs Publishers
Editors are those mysterious people behind the curtain at the publishing houses who acquire and fixes books for publishing.
Why would you want to go through the extra step of getting an agent. You're a writer, not a movie star.
The world of publishing has changed a lot from what most of us knew (if we ever noticed it at all). A writer no longer sends off a freshly typed or neatly and written manuscript to a publisher with enough stamps to get it back. If you send a manuscript to a publisher a very under - underling will throw it away. They will not look at it, they will probably not even read the name on the package.
Some publishing houses will except a query letter. To send them a query, you must look them up on the Internet, find out their submission guidelines and follow them to the letter. Most publishers and agents now prefer e-mail to US Mail, now-a-days.
There are very few of these publishers left. So how does a writer get their books before publishers?
Agents.
A literary agent is a go between. They work very hard for their contracted writers for no money until they sell the book. Then they receive a percentage of the writer's income. An agent earns this money by using their reputation and contacts with editors to sell your book. Because their income is based on your income, they will get you as much money as possible.
Also, agents deal with the business side of publishing every day. They understand and can help with the contracts you will sign. They will check the math when the publishing house sends out papers saying you will get virtually no money for (fill in the reason). Your best interest is their best interest.
That is why an author would want an agent. The reason publishing houses want to work with agents is because they have found a person, not on their payroll, who will weed through all the crap (and some of the gems in the rough); who will walk the writer though first edits, and again weed out the authors who can not be worked with because of personality malfunctions. Why wouldn't a publishing house refuse to work with authors if they can help it.
Here is your biggest reason to find an agent. Lets say you send your query letter to every publisher who will take it, and every last one rejects it. So you think fine, I need an agent. Whatever networking your agent can do is undermined by you because publishers will not accept resubmissions. So that good editor friend that your new agent is having lunch with has already rejected you. (This is probably not the end of your career, or anything that drastic, because of the number of publishers that do not except public submissions.)
For me, and many other authors, this process is very difficult. They query process is extremely impersonal. You send in the best query you can and get back form letter rejections. Despite my best efforts, I do have trouble not taking it personally (like that teacher who doesn't like you kid).
Also, you are left wondering is it my query letter, is it the premise of my book, or is it just a busy agent who might like my book, but is rejecting most things because they are already selling several books at a time. Some agents my only sign a dozen books a year, and sometimes they express (via blog) their regret at passing up some probably great books.
As an unpublished author, this is all new, and it is hard to know if you're good enough. Then you hear about some b*** who got offers from the first two agents she sent queries to and then had a publisher in a week (you know who you are, and selling your soul to the devil is cheating...how did you contact the devil anyway, e-mail me at...)
Why would you want to go through the extra step of getting an agent. You're a writer, not a movie star.
The world of publishing has changed a lot from what most of us knew (if we ever noticed it at all). A writer no longer sends off a freshly typed or neatly and written manuscript to a publisher with enough stamps to get it back. If you send a manuscript to a publisher a very under - underling will throw it away. They will not look at it, they will probably not even read the name on the package.
Some publishing houses will except a query letter. To send them a query, you must look them up on the Internet, find out their submission guidelines and follow them to the letter. Most publishers and agents now prefer e-mail to US Mail, now-a-days.
There are very few of these publishers left. So how does a writer get their books before publishers?
Agents.
A literary agent is a go between. They work very hard for their contracted writers for no money until they sell the book. Then they receive a percentage of the writer's income. An agent earns this money by using their reputation and contacts with editors to sell your book. Because their income is based on your income, they will get you as much money as possible.
Also, agents deal with the business side of publishing every day. They understand and can help with the contracts you will sign. They will check the math when the publishing house sends out papers saying you will get virtually no money for (fill in the reason). Your best interest is their best interest.
That is why an author would want an agent. The reason publishing houses want to work with agents is because they have found a person, not on their payroll, who will weed through all the crap (and some of the gems in the rough); who will walk the writer though first edits, and again weed out the authors who can not be worked with because of personality malfunctions. Why wouldn't a publishing house refuse to work with authors if they can help it.
Here is your biggest reason to find an agent. Lets say you send your query letter to every publisher who will take it, and every last one rejects it. So you think fine, I need an agent. Whatever networking your agent can do is undermined by you because publishers will not accept resubmissions. So that good editor friend that your new agent is having lunch with has already rejected you. (This is probably not the end of your career, or anything that drastic, because of the number of publishers that do not except public submissions.)
For me, and many other authors, this process is very difficult. They query process is extremely impersonal. You send in the best query you can and get back form letter rejections. Despite my best efforts, I do have trouble not taking it personally (like that teacher who doesn't like you kid).
Also, you are left wondering is it my query letter, is it the premise of my book, or is it just a busy agent who might like my book, but is rejecting most things because they are already selling several books at a time. Some agents my only sign a dozen books a year, and sometimes they express (via blog) their regret at passing up some probably great books.
As an unpublished author, this is all new, and it is hard to know if you're good enough. Then you hear about some b*** who got offers from the first two agents she sent queries to and then had a publisher in a week (you know who you are, and selling your soul to the devil is cheating...how did you contact the devil anyway, e-mail me at...)
Thursday, May 14, 2009
Elements of Publishing: 1. Query Letters
Recently, I was approached by someone asking for a list of publishers to send a manuscript for publishing. I both can, and will help if you want.
However, I will very much stress to you that before attempting to publish you must have a strong idea of what is going on in the minds of agents and editors.
Before you approach anyone -AT ALL - you must have a query letter.
A query letter is a one page description of your books plots and protagonist. What this needs to include is: WHO the book is about; WHAT happens to them; the CHOICES they have to make; and, the CONSEQUENCES of the decision.
It should also include the books working title (what you call it-the name will get changed) and the word count for the complete work.
This sounds really simple, but it isn't. This is the most blogged about topic in publishing. This is your sell for your book and the only thing that most agents or editors will ever see. They do not want your manuscript. They are already drowning in what they call "slush piles". Stacks of manuscripts that they actually wanted to read. If you send them an unsolicited book, they through it away (or delete it if by e-mail).
It is harsh, but it is true. They don't want to hurt you, it isn't personal. This is the heart and soul of business.
Here are some great links about query letters. Read them, learn from them, don't get discouraged. You are not alone, Paducah Prose Writers will work through this together.
Query Shark -the snarliest, but most helpful agent on the net. You have to exchange niceties for real feedback, which she gives.
Pub Rants Kristin Nelson will always have the honor of being the first agent to reject me. I'd like to think its because I haven't perfected my query letter. She is the agent of Lisa Shearin, a writer I really enjoy. Ms. Nelson is a good agent who has sold a lot of best sellers. At current date she has 88 posts just on query letters.
BookEnds, LLC is a literary agency, they are nice, and they are honest about the industry. The link here is for queries; but please, use them as a resource for all your writing needs.
Toasted Cheese (contributed by Niaz K. - Thank you) A comprehensive query article, covering not only novels, but also articles. I am not familiar with this site, but from this article I know they will be thoroughly perused.
If you google query, you get a lot of scary crap that doesn't really translate to what a writer can do. start with these sites. As intimidating as these sites can be, they are better than agents and editors out there claiming they only way you'll ever get published is if you've been published. Starting out is hard, but you can do it.
Getting Published: Elements of Publishing
I did not expect to address this issue so soon. I believe that was naive on my part. When a writer completes a book (by complete, I mean a story that has a beginning, middle, and end) seeing that book in print is a burning desire.
If I haven't seen your book, I don't know if its ready for publication, you may be brilliant and your book may be perfect. If that is true for you, congratulations.
Most books aren't finished just because they are complete; and many of us believe that if we have a good story and run spell check we are ready for an editor. I myself once believed that editors were happy to take a diamond in the rough and polish it up. That's their job, right?
Not really.
If you have made any kind of foray into the publishing world, you know that they eat their young...and many of them enjoy it. Most, however, can destroy you before lunch, without a second thought-because using their power to welcome you into their world or bar the door is what they do, all day long, every single day.
Okay, If I have you a little intimidated, I mean to. There are thousands of new books on the shelves every year, so obviously someone is breaking through. And I personally have read many books that amount to nothing more than a polished turd, so the crap I am writing should have a chance, right?
Right, It is just best to enter this world armed with what you need to face the professionals. I am going to start a series of posts about publishing and what you really need to know before you jump into it.
Friday, May 8, 2009
Paducah Writers Group at Etcetera
Are you writing?
I wonder if anyone is writing? I know it's only the 8th, but the 23rd will be upon us in no time.
Also, I would remind you that you can post your work on our work site. If you do not have access to it and would like to post, please e-mail me at notrightfighting@gmail.com. I will be happy to get you on the list.
Keep on working!
-Kristy
Also, I would remind you that you can post your work on our work site. If you do not have access to it and would like to post, please e-mail me at notrightfighting@gmail.com. I will be happy to get you on the list.
Keep on working!
-Kristy
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Link
I have some sites I recommend for writers on my other site. I am attaching a link here for you.
Writers Links.
Writers Links.
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
May's meeting
May's meeting is scheduled for the 23rd in the conference room @ McCracken Country Public Library. Meeting is from 3-5pm. Everyone is invited.
Our Work
I have posted the first few pages of my novel to get things rolling. Feel free to pick it apart to your hearts content.
- Kristy
- Kristy
Saturday, April 18, 2009
PPW's first meeting
I would like to thank everyone who was able to attend our first meeting. It was definitely a younger group than I expected, but hearing from young writers was a wonderful experience!
I will schedule next month's meeting as soon as I can, and I will get the word out there. Please, tell other writers. A strong writing community is as important as a strong art community. Creative people thrive when they work together.
I will schedule next month's meeting as soon as I can, and I will get the word out there. Please, tell other writers. A strong writing community is as important as a strong art community. Creative people thrive when they work together.
Thursday, April 9, 2009
Rules
Ok, I've been thinking, and I don't have a list of rules right now. We are all adults and I am sure we can treat each other with respect. So maybe that's the rule.
Respect one another.
For an entertaining list of rules that would apply, click this link http://hollylisle.com/fm/Articles/group1-a.html#critique. It is a good site.
Respect one another.
For an entertaining list of rules that would apply, click this link http://hollylisle.com/fm/Articles/group1-a.html#critique. It is a good site.
Saturday, April 4, 2009
Mission Statement
Paducah Prose Writers wish to encourage and support writers so they will be free to share ideas and opinions.
We are here to critique without expressing personal value judgment on content, freeing writers to truly express themselves.
We are here to critique without expressing personal value judgment on content, freeing writers to truly express themselves.
Wednesday, April 1, 2009
I want to meet you April 18th at 3pm!
Mark you Calenders! April 18, 2009 3:00
If you aren't in the throws of novelling, now is the time to start. This will be the first meeting of PPW and I can't wait! Don't worry, you don't even know how good your going to get at this whole writing thing.
I will post a few guidelines soon. Don't panic, it won't be anything difficult. Stuff like, no tomato throwing (I must insist on civility).
If you aren't in the throws of novelling, now is the time to start. This will be the first meeting of PPW and I can't wait! Don't worry, you don't even know how good your going to get at this whole writing thing.
I will post a few guidelines soon. Don't panic, it won't be anything difficult. Stuff like, no tomato throwing (I must insist on civility).
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